Plce webbing set up reddit My initial want is a SSO smersh rig. There was a weird transition point in like 2004-2005 where I had an ALICE Ruck and ran the full set up on top of the ACU uniform and the interceptor turtle shell body armor they were issuing. PLCE webbing is very good, the modularity of it makes it extremely useful. Modularity is nice but molle webbing is extra weight (usually) and more flop compared to webbing that has pouches directly sewn onto a wide belt pad. I have a jayjay’s commanders webbing and a Alice (with medium bag) to confirm it works. Although not required to build a set of PLCE webbing some people may prefer them as if you for instance were carrying a lot of gear, it’s a little more forgiving. 95p the DPM also works well alongside the NATO Dutch, & U. There are also “tailored” British PLCE webbing which you can find on eBay or kitmonster or other UK trade/surplus sites. Could always replace the spanish clips with surface mount buckles for like $10 So im currently running a PLCE rig over my MEPC which is slick besides 3 mags on the front but I'm wanting to setup to something a bit more modern than the surplus PLCE. 259K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. Add your thoughts and get the conversation going. I very much love my Jay Jay's Gen IV commander's webbing but ordered one of these (in God's Plaid of course) to see if I like it better. Can fit 3 mags in each mag pouch, the commanders pouch on the user’s right can hold up to another 6 or you can substitute things around since it can also serve as a admin/GP pouch. A subreddit for discussing and posting tactical/combat gear. If In the jungle a lot of yanks would go down with heat exhaustion because of the chest rigs covering so much area and not allowing heat to dissipate. They replaced it with a surprisingly modern belt system that still holds up today. I already got the minimal shooter and the medium battle load belts done. Unlike the old PLCE the pouches are sewn directly onto a wide hippo belt, so it eliminates quite a few things such as slop/flop, bulk and weight that you’d get with molle style webbing but it also allows the pouches to mount much tighter and firmly together whereas modular pouches have that little bit of extra edging material that takes up Jun 16, 2006 · The weight of the pouched should self-destruct the webbing, and with luck, you'll go tumbling over in a dramatic heap. Reply Needing to de-linking 5. For UCP Nattick then picked up the Cadpat/Marpat pattern, dropped the screen with only 5% coverage and seemingly applied the Urban Track colour, minus the "black" contrast element. PLCE webbing, set up for 48 hour sustainment, the 10L pack contains warm kit/wet kit and a poncho for shelter. If you can, find someone who makes custom webbing. It's just gonna be a set to have just to have. I have 4 utility pouches and 2 double ammo, and a rocket pouch that gives me 72 hours worth of food, water and basic shelter. The bungee is to keep everything compressed and bonded, to prevent flopping. Oct 5, 2024 · hello, @Roc I'd go along with the British PLCE DPM webbing "rig" belt order minus the large CBNR or NBC "Noddy suit" pouch. Your webbing. Very good gear if you're out for long periods of time. Add a hippo pad to the setup as well to increase the comfort. Maybe consider getting some padding or rig a few Qore IceVent pads along the belt. They can fit fucking anything in there. The yoke is extremely lightweight and has no “bulk” and no wide belt to it and you can wear your PLCE webbing with your utility and ammo pouches and then just wear the other rocket pouch harness over the top. The move away from webbing is fairly recent. Please read the below points to consider if this is the best place to ask your question: Basically it’s got the same stitched rear utility/canteen pouches but the sides are molle, so you can outfit them with admin pouches, or additional utility pouches of choice. I was in a army surplus in Norwich and they had that SA80 two tone for sale so I thought I'd pick it up it's a aeg and decent that was at the start of the year and since most fields near me have been shut or are too far (I dont drive) I haven't had a chance to get the ukara Be the first to comment Nobody's responded to this post yet. The question came to me, when I saw pics of British soldiers in the Middle East wearing their Osprey Body armor on top of their issued Plce-webbing. I have a jayjay's commander's webbing and a TCA replica PRC152. Jayjays and dragons webbing can be found on eBay secondhand. Col Timothy O'Neill (the father of modern camouflage technology) had a dog and cat fit when he saw what the Army was issuing. Other pouches,frog and entrenchment tool can be attached to belt by inserting plastic tabs My current set up. Too large and loose to carry sensitive or mission-specific kit —webbing: 3-4GP pouches are large enough for sustainment, but small enough for pyro, STANO, demo, fighting load refit, etc. Makes for a lighter and less floppy package than a modular web belt. I’ve set up the sustainment kit in a way that is accessible and store efficiently, for me at least. S Woodland pattern webbing of the 1980s (mix n' match). British Army PLCE DPM Webbing System | Raid Supply UK the price for Grade 1 isn't too bad £34. An analogy someone used is like a woman out for a jog wearing some compression bras. I’m tempting to find a set of Jay Jay’s commander webbing after spending nearly a grand on different options to experiment with while trying to put together a similar setup. That includes webbing and daysack as you can't get wet and warm kit into webbing pouches. PLCE pouches, surplus ones, should not be $200 each. The 1958 webbing was almost as old as the Queen for crying out loud. Honestly the Alice gear or even the British PLCE is probably fine and very affordable as it is (I tend to prefer the PLCE because of the 6 point harness) but you won’t have the newest tech and textiles like the one from Kitpimp. I already have a chicom that I've modified to be a little more modern, but I want something similar to a smersh. Or some sort of webbing type. Might end up just grabbing a factory 2nd Jay Jays webbing set. It’s a good starter kit. British PLCE or their version of Load Bearing Equipment is pretty solid. You can find older tailored British webbing as well where the user has taken their web kit to a tailor and stitched the pouches onto a comfortable wide padded belt. I always liked the ALICE gear. They do not however do buttpacks on most of their PLCE. So full British style web kit is next in line. Possibly a replica as the issued kit didn't use those clips. If you look around you can get a full set for under $100 including the pad, which is a steal considering you're usually looking at four mag pouches, two GP, and a canteen pouch. This would also serve as a guide for how to set up webbing for airsoft. Or you can use the dragon supplies custom builder and build a webbing kit specifically for hiking than trying to repurpose the sewn-on pouches on regular webbing. Personally I’m running a JayJay’s commanders webbing but I’d recommend checking out the Kitpimp commanders webbing as a more affordable alternative, or just keep rocking that Alice belt because they’re still well loved. $189 for the full kit vs like $300+ if I tried to build one piece by piece with quality pouches. Tailored/stitched/custom mod PLCE would make more sense to be up near $200 though. Here's a V2 gearbox guide (the information needed for upgrading any AEG version gearbox should also be very similar, albeit with version-specific parts), along with an inner barrel guide, bucking guide, HPA guide, Bolt-Action Sniper Rifle guide, DMR guide all set up for questions just like this; for GBBs, try the searchbar for build lists. The old PLCE webbing is decent and also can be found on eBay for cheaper. Otherwise regular surplus PLCE webbing will work but are heavier and floppy (modularity = weight and sometimes flopping pouches, usually). At least a good one. Might help if you get a sternum strap for the Alice pack shoulder straps. Video game, movie, and assorted mall ninja equipment posts will be removed. Never managed to get my hands on a butt pack. I just hated the FLC. I've looked at the British PLCE, the US Alice, and even the type 83 battle jacket. . Anybody familiar with the British web gear? Seems like a solid alternative to jungle rig or a modern Alice rig Looks like a British PLCE webbing set. Your bergen (pack). The only used green or DPM offerings I can find are all non-tailored or heavily used. Kitpimp and Jayjay’s commanders webbing, for sup’ed up PLCE kit. Have a Ontario bayonet on one side. Hope this helps. 87 votes, 38 comments. The Brit vehicle crew just wear a plate carrier no PLCE/Webbing and use a low profile battle belt. 56, to bomb up, while pinned down in contact sounds like a great reason to carry twenty spare mags. The PLCE is perfectly fine as it is and I would probably say it has things going for it over the Alice. The pouches won't properly fit the 152 as they are. Pick up a hippo pad and if you want to expand it a little more then get what’s called a bum roll). Using a cut down ACH for my PVS-14 and brain holder. In the army, your gear in the field consisted of two parts. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Jajaysbrecon and dragon supplies are the best websites for webbing in the UK hands down. Not very "high speed, low drag" though Here in the UK you can get a full set for as low as £20 if you don't care about the condition 84 pattern webbing is pretty similar, and was in use up into the 2000's by the CAF (and probably beyond by various reserve units). Kind of a one and done LBE vest. Don’t have much xp with other lbe but I really dig my plce. No wonder Lt. Rifle is one of many I can use. Almost certainly a 2nd Lieutenant will say that you can't possibly go on and you'll have to stop. oh i live en denmark too! sadly you can only get the MG pouches, afaik the stanag ones havent been sold on auction before, but i got mine on facebook, the G3 pouches pop up a bit more regularly but you just need to be patient, and you can def find the stanag ones. Its obviously ment for army cadets ages 12-17 with up to 1 week field exercises and a few hours on the range; the odd bit of tabbing but nothing mega. Most webbing kits haven’t really changed too much but the construction and material have. I've heard good stuff about Jay Jay's webbing. I still have things I want to change on it and that just means more money. Here’s my LBE/PLCE kit I’ve assembled that on overall happy with. JayJays of Brecon, and Dragon are some of the best for Brit PLCE. I have posted my setup on this sub before Hi u/Nerf-Gunner!Thanks for posting a question to r/BritishArmy!This community is for Serving, Former, Future members and those interested in the British Army. PUT TOGETHER A SET OF PLCE WEBBING Putting together a set of PLCE webbing is quite simple. It’s basically the PLCE but the pouches are fixed in place in a standardized arrangement. Reply reply [deleted] I use a PLCE webbing set up, 2 double ammo pouches, holster, canteen, first aid and utility pouch. I ended up buying my own webbing. There are modernized versions especially coming from the UK where the pouches are directly sewn onto a wide hippo pad in a standardized arrangement and uses fastex/ITW style buckles instead of the Spanish clips. This rig is modeled after the venerable British PLCE webbing but has some features more in line with American thinking (mainly a buttpack sized rear pouch instead of two separate sustainment pouches). Every piece of the webbing in the photo (except for the MK1 knife) came from kommandostore in one of the plce webbing sets they were selling recently. Jan 2, 2020 · Hippo belt is an extra accessory for comfort. Main thing is the Jay Jay's gen 4 Commander's webbing version of the classic British PLCE. Reply reply PearlButter I'd go with a PLCE Webbing set (brit version of the ALICE webbing, I guess); you don't want anything restricting your front when you go prone, so keep all your gear on your sides/back. Call me old fashioned, but webbing is the best way to go. Hi u/backcountry57!Thanks for posting a question to r/BritishArmy!This community is for Serving, Former, Future members and those interested in the British Army. It’s basicly a half way between a shooters belt and actual webbing. British PLCE webbing is a way better option. I've found good options for MOLLE but supposedly tailored is much lower profile and less floppy. Webbing 2 double ammo pouches 1 utility pouch 1 canteen pouch 1 first aid pouch 1 holster On the back of the webbing is a PLCE rocket pouch that can be detached, and then re-attached to the Osprey body armor . Yoke is thin enough to run under armor comfortably too. 269K subscribers in the tacticalgear community. Virtus isn’t as good as PLCE on the whole. Velocity Systems Jungle Rig if you wanna get it all in one go and have a buttpack like a real American. I also have the rocket side pouch on the back to make it a 72hr kit Reply Pattern 58 is cool and still somewhat viable in a pinch, but given a choice between it and the more modular, lightweight, and modern PLCE I'd go with the latter every time. Combatants in CENTCOM have no issues putting up a fight using soviet era kit similar to this. It’s assembled to be worn solo, with almost any chest rig, and more importantly a slight plate carrier with or without front pouches. If you’re using it for anything other than airsoft or the odd bit of training I wouldnt recommend it. There is also modern PLCE style Brit kit out there, both MOLLE and fixed pouch, and the fixed pouch stuff is cheap as well. You should always have at least 24 hours worth of stuff on you. Step 1: The PLCE Webbing PLCE webbing is a system which uses pouches (ammunition, waterbottle, utility, radio etc. The Personal Load Carrying Equipment or PLCE was leaps and bounds ahead of the older 1958 webbing. But they are impossible to get. PLCE is great 'cause you can wear your pouches where you want. Simply thread the straps of the main yoke into d rings on each ammo or utility pouch and thread the rear straps of the main yoke into two d rings on the PLCE belt. but yeah, facebook marketplace, DBA and guloggratis are good places to look at! feel free to DM me for any questions ;) Have the Alice pick sit on top of the rear utility pouches of the PLCE webbing. Sub $200 with shipping (tailored UKOM webbing is near $400). Also considerably cheaper than the velocity systems kit. ) mounted on a belt and supported by shoulder straps (the yoke). The British have something called a short back Bergen, as an alternative to the Alice pack. On a personal note, I've always wondered why we never invested in those giant bum bags that the yanks have on the back of their belt kit. Something like tailored PLCE stuff have sewn on pouches on a wide belt pad. Pretty much stitched/“tailored” PLCE webbing. Not even a surplus standard complete PLCE kit should cost that much. And I thought that it makes some sense, since you could ditch the weight of the body armor in a flight situation, yet still have your webbing gear with all your ammo, your IFAK and whatnot, to survive. Woodland M81 ideally, DPM and OD green are okay. I know this set up inside out British PLCE works very well, extremely modular. I live in a very rural area with lots of woods, open fields, and hills so I've always favored lbe over a full on plater carrier build. I have prior experience with a much, much more used and abused incomplete set that has since been put into permanent storage, and i know it is a comfortable lbe system. Allows for the carry of 24hr kit on the belt and you can still wear a ruck with it. Also, I've seen a lot of talk about using "bungee cord" to tie the rear pouches closer together, which is what you've also done apparently. Subreddit for both professional and civilian tactical gear. Civilian tactical habits followed the phase out of webbing for tac vests and then plate carriers. Webbing weight 20lb with water. It is also much cheaper than modern battle belts whilst still having the same functionality. 62 out of the cardboard and paper packages while his buddy was getting lung shot and bleeding out in front of him. Nah it's a fair question tbh i just collected uniforms and helmets before the start of the year. Haven't tried it with MOD issue PLCE webbing because I really don't want to have to dig them out of the bottom storage bin but I'm confident they don't fit either. The daysack and Bergen don’t fit as much in, and the webbing can’t hold as much kit as the PLCE webbing. Get up straight away and carry on gathering the pouches in your arms (use this action to hide the laces in your combat jacket). How’s the Warrior Harness? I got their PLB MK1 belt to use with some other suspenders and I might end up ordering their harness instead. Since they sit higher up on your back they don’t interfere that much with the utility pouches. US military forces were still using webbing in combat zones into the mid 2000s and in training til 2010 (some ROTC only moved away from webbing in the past few years). Webbing has mostly been looked past in the recent… Full description of things on photo PLCE 2x DPM Universal pouch 2x DPM double magazine pouch Medium PLCE belt green DPM hip pad DPM yoke Generic 1 inch belt Lots of velcro Frog bayonet pouch Generic Medic patch Decathlon backpack Strap green Mil-tec green dump pouch Tailored webbing like JayJays and Kitpimp offer. Flashing back to that ISIS dude who was trying to pull 7. Webbing is the most ideal for that environment. Forms a shelf to integrate almost seamlessly with ruck. Plce>Alice/lbv all day. I’ve tried numerous things and a good set of webbing just works. I have went through about 3 different webbing belts, 58, UK kombat dogshit and osprey webbing belt, if u want something that has a larger choice of pouches I really do recoment osprey webbing they are like 40ish quid around that area. PLCE Bergen is a good bit of kit on its own, especially when you zip the third rocket pouch on the front. Please read the below points to consider if this is the best place to ask your question: 35 votes, 11 comments. Modern kit, specifically a lot of GI kit, isn't really any different than the stuff in the OP, Its just lighter, looks nicer, and PALS/MOLLE webbing is a better system for attachment. I agree. odkwbj hqyjktb ulgivtm jbqed dga iwtus whs wfrq nqfw vnfdsal vijzxgyw bgax boyq wythq gdgbhcp